Hi and welcome back to Undisclosed Toward Justice.

This is our ongoing weekly series.

Colin and I get to talk about kind of whatever we want when we are off-season.

Colin, hi, how are you doing?

Yeah, I'm doing well. How about yourself?

Hanging in there. Hanging in. They're getting ready for the holidays.

This week I am really excited to have, although I obviously wish in better

circumstances, but I have on a man who reach out to me, I think it was about three or four

years ago, about his father's case, which from the jump seemed like I had very strong

innocence factors. And at the time, I believe this was

like when undisclosed was on hiatus and my own father. I was very ill. And so I remained in touch

in the case, but we didn't really kind of do any work on the case. But I really wanted

to have him on to talk about his father's case. So I want to welcome Francisco Serrano to our show today.

Hi, Francisco.

Yeah, Colin, it's nice to be here.

So I often talk about, and I was just talking to a group of legal professionals a couple of days ago, I gave a talk,

and I bring this issue up a lot where it's remarkable to me. We've done what, over two dozen cases on undisclosed in the last

decade. And this might be the only case. I'm not kidding, Francisco, in which the person on the

outside who does not give up on the defendant is a male. It's always a sister, a mother, a significant

other. I think this is the only case I've ever come across where it is a son. It's always a sister, a mother, a significant other. I think this is the only case I've

ever come across where it is a son. It is a male figure who has not given up on their case.

Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and, you know, maybe a couple of facts about the case. And then I'll go through some more,

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