You're going to be. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Well, hello friends, this is Jay Warner Wallace sitting in for Greg Kockel on

stand to reason or you know we usually examine issues of ethics values and

religion and as you know Greg always says we're trying to give you some basic

training for your mind we're going to try to do that today as well know, Greg always says, we're trying to give you some basic training for your mind.

We're going to try to do that today as well, even though Greg is on his vacation, I'm sure he's having a great time.

So I get a chance to sit in for him.

I really appreciate you joining me.

And what I want to do do before we start taking calls as I want to be able to

Share with you a couple things I've learned that may be helpful for you I mean this is a show where we obviously are talking about the things that are passionate to you and Greg and

usually it's about some form of making the case for Christianity, be able to defend what you believe

to think clearly about what we believe as Christians who hold a Christian worldview and

actually hoping that that worldview guides our decision-making, guides the

way we need to filter through which we see in the world. So I want to just pass on to

you a couple of things that I've learned.

Working in the unique setting that I get to work in, which are criminal trials,

and I still, even though I have not had an active case for some time, we solved another case last year that I opened, I think in 2003, some of these cases take forever.

Okay. And that case, we, the first time I've ever has solved a case using DNA, and I most of the time don't have any DNA cases, but you know, it was, it's kind of really cool to be able to solve a case and it got me thinking a little bit about

The nature of some of these cases I've worked

One of the most probably celebrated cases was a case that Robert Shapiro, the attorney for O.J. Simpson, tried as the defense attorney and we did it in the same courtroom that O.J. was tried in downtown and when that guilty verdict came back

I after it came back I started to kind of read the press clippings on it right because

dateline was in the you know the courtroom with us and the

LA Times were covering the case our local agency our local paper rather was covering it because

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