Well, what's happened here in Pittsburgh locally and of course across the country, everyone's talking about race and law enforcement.

Our next guest, our first guest on today's shows one of our favorite guests

Jay Warner Wallace for decades was a beat police officer then he became a

detective then he became a homicide detective then a cold case homicide detective Jay a for Christian worldview, adjunct professor of apologetics at Biola, author of Cold Case Christianity

and God's crime scene, also a forensic faith and creator of the Cas makers academy for kids.

Jay Warner is here to talk to us today about bridging the thin blue line,

how the gospel saves us from racial divide.

Jim, welcome back to the show.

How are you here?

Thanks for having me.

I appreciate it.

I'm looking forward to talking to you.

Oh, it's so good to hear your voice, Jim.

And I want to start by asking about our fair city.

We had a fracas, as they're calling it over the weekend to

protests in the name of Black Lives Matter which went horribly awry. Have you

seen any of the video Jim? No I have not I heard a little bit about it but I have any of the video, Jim? No, I have not, I heard a little bit about it,

but I have not seen the video yet, so you tell me.

Yeah, well, there are two videos.

The first one took place in what we call the Cultural District,

which is on Penn Avenue in downtown Pittsburgh.

And it started with a protest going on in the street in front of a bunch of diners that were at an outdoor

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