Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Epic Gardening Podcast. Kevin Espiritu here, joined

by Leslie Hallock, a professional horticulturist and also the author of A Bunch of Books, many

of which you've actually heard us talk about here on the show. This is Leslie's third or

fourth time on the show. Today, we're talking about tiny plants under glass. And it's sort of a

little teaser of what's coming up in her book, which is also called Tiny Plants. Link will be in

the description. So Leslie, I've never done this. I do want to be a mad scientist. I do want to be

like a crazy botanist. And I do want to have plants growing under glass. But I guess maybe the first

question is what is under glass really mean? Right. So I use that term because this is not technically

what you would call a terrarium building book. There are tons of terrarium building books. So if

you're talking about direct planting, you know, there are lots of great books out there. What I'm

doing here is collecting, right? So that may mean potted or planted. And so under glass can mean a few

a few different things. And I in tiny plants, I go into all the different types of under glass

options that you have, which may be, say, awarding in case, which is generally a glass case or cover

that you don't plant into, but you set potted plants inside of that need higher humidity. So these

are all going to be plants we're talking about that need higher humidity levels that will just dry

out too quickly in a normal open home environment, especially smaller plants with tiny root systems,

right? That will dry much more quickly. You have the option to use cloche jars, which are

bell glass covers or any other type of glass cover, you know, to cover your plants to raise humidity.

Or you may be directly planting into something like a terrarium or a the varium. And of a

varium is typically an enclosure that houses not only plants, but animals. Okay. Or you may be building

something like a pallidarium, which is sort of 50 percent water, 50 percent plantings or a

reparium, which is sort of a sort of a coastline type of environment. So there's all sorts of

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