Welcome to the Bull World Podcast, I'm Charlie Sykes. You know when I first heard about this new book, The Magadiries, I thought my initial

reaction was, oh great, another book about the Magamove. Just we need another book about the Trump era,

but I got to say this one is completely different. I'm really looking forward to discussing this today with our guest Tina Nguyen, founding partner and national correspondent at Puck, formerly a reporter for political and vanity fair as well as a number of conservative publications where she first

started out in journalism under her mentor Tucker Carlson. Is that unfair? Say Tucker Carlson? He's going to play a role here, isn't he?

Oh, he's going to play a giant role and one of the things I do go into the book. First, I'm so happy to be here. I love hanging out with you Charlie.

Second, interesting that you bring up mentor because one of the overarching themes in my book is

trying to get ahead in America and my parents were immigrants that had no idea how like building a career in America

worked.

In Asia it would be more like, okay are you smart?

Do you have this Greek cool in America?

I was like, who do you know?

Who can teach you the ropes?

And my mom was reading a lot of Forbes magazine

articles about career development and is like you should find mentors that's Tucker he

could be a mentor go well Well, I mean, this is part of what I found so interesting about your book is it does explain the process by which people are recruited into this movement.

And I think it's absolutely crucial to understand this.

So on your first page and the authors note you're right, there are hundreds if not

thousands of books about the history of the Republican Party, the history of the

American conservative movement inside the party and the history of Donald Trump in his

administration and January 6th and militant white nationalists and whatever other

right-wing insanity have emerged in American politics over the last eight years

this is not one of those books. The Magadires is a coming

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