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The Bulwark Podcast

A.B. Stoddard: Dead Ends after Iowa

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2024

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Almost half of Iowa's caucus-goers voted for someone besides Trump—evidence that a criminal defendant preaching to the choir can only go so far. Meanwhile, Haley makes up her own reality, DeSantis crawls to South Carolina, and the Trump suck-ups plot against McConnell. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes.

show notes:

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Politico piece Charlie and A.B. referenced

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Bulwark podcast. I'm Charlie Sykes. It is January 16th, 2024. This is the morning after the big, big

0:16.6

Iowa caucuses. The suspense did not kill me last night. I think we kind of knew how it was going

0:21.7

to turn out. You know, short version,

0:24.0

Donald Trump wins. He gets 51% of the vote in an incredibly low turnout election.

0:29.0

I think he got something like 56 to 60,000 votes.

0:32.0

There are some legislative races that get more votes than that.

0:35.4

But a win is a win.

0:36.8

He wins Iowa.

0:37.8

He wins Iowa by 30 points.

0:39.6

Ron Desantis keeps hope sort of barely twitching alive says he got his ticket

0:46.8

punched he finishes second Nicki Haley finishes third declares that there's a two-person race and then says she's not going to be

0:54.4

debating anymore in New Hampshire.

0:56.9

So after all of these big events, I'm always joined, I'm always lucky to be joined by

1:02.0

AB Stoddard, our new colleague at the Bullwork.

1:05.0

AB, how are you this morning?

1:07.0

I, ha ha.

1:08.0

The Iowa Hangover?

1:09.0

Yeah, I'm disappointed, not surprised.

1:12.0

It is a weird numbness, Charlie, right? Like, I don't know how many months I've been saying that New Hampshire wouldn't matter because he would say it was rigged and diluted by rhinos and socialists and so it is weird though right to be here now that it's

1:27.8

actually officially begun and officially kind of ended after all the time we've spent talking.

1:34.0

Yeah, I mean, Will Salitan and I talked about this yesterday, you know, before even the

1:38.0

first vote had been cast, the Republican Normies had already surrendered, but let's

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