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The Good Fight

Timur Kuran

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2019

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

How do revolutions start? Can a few opposition activists overthrow an authoritarian government? And is it possible for a loud minority to impose its view on a quiet majority -- even in a democracy? Yascha Mounk discusses these questions with the eminent political scientist Timur Kuran. Email: goodfightpod@gmail.com Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk Podcast production by John T. Williams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Democracy is a system that works or compromises. If you are willing to compromise with only 60% of the population.

0:14.8

You have ruled out 40% of the population.

0:17.8

It means you're willing to repress them.

0:20.3

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:24.0

Around 2015, it looked for a short moment as for the far left

0:30.0

was going to transform the politics of Europe and perhaps the whole of the Western world.

0:38.7

Jeremy Corbyn took the leadership of the Labour Party and was extremely popular in Britain for a while.

0:47.0

In Spain, Pablo Iglesias, a Marxist academic who used to teach classes like cinema and hegemony, managed

0:59.1

to transform an anti-capitalist street movement into a political party, Prodemos, which was in some elections beating the traditional center-left party, the PSO.

1:12.0

In France, the PSOE. In France, the arrival of Emmanuel Macron

1:17.0

humiliated the old moderate socialist party and seemed to place

1:22.1

Jean-Luckman-Chaunchon, a self-decled party and seemed to place Jean-Nuc moulanchon, a self-declared communist at the front of the left.

1:27.0

And most importantly, of course in Greece, a complicated centrist coalition government was washed aside by the rise of Alexis Tsipras and his

1:38.9

Theresa Party, a coalition of different leftist splintered groups.

1:44.0

In the United States, a lot of people were explicitly saying that this is the model

1:51.0

which the American left should follow. From Jacobin, which was

1:56.3

talking about Corbyn as a blueprint for the American left, to politicians like

2:01.6

Rilcana, the congressman from California who said that the

2:06.6

European left was both morally and strategically right. Well a few years on it does not look like that any more. The extent of the

2:19.7

reversal of fortunes for a lot of the left is astounding and has not sufficiently been noticed on this side of the ocean.

2:29.0

Jeremy Corbyn has been completely out of step with most of his young base which ones loved him

2:37.4

in essentially wanting to take Britain out of the European Union and even opposing a membership in the single market and

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