This is the Tom Hartman program.

You know, as we look at the police murder of George Floyd and Brianna Taylor and others,

we find... Floyd and Brianna Taylor and others. We find that, you know, obviously there is a problem intrinsic

to the way we police in America.

We had a long conversation about this last week, how European

policing is, the whole concept of policing is very different than the American

concept of policing.

Our form of policing largely grew out of the slave patrols in the South.

Many communities in the United States, right up until the late 1800s,

had no police departments at all, or a very small de minimis police presence.

But there is, there have been a couple of things recently that have made this situation far worse.

I mentioned the 1033 program that came along with Reagan, or the Reagan Bush administration really was started in 1980 by George

Herbert Walker Bush but it was originally it was first proposed in the

1980s during Reagan. But I think perhaps more destructive is this concept of

qualified immunity. Back in 1967 in the United States, you could by and large, it didn't happen that often, but you could

sue and by and large people of color were excluded from having the ability to do this just because of the

simple racism built into the entire system.

But you could sue police if they mistreated you.

You could sue police departments, you could sue cities,

you could sue individual police officers. And this started to change in 1967.

In 1967 there was a Supreme Court case.

Well, what happened was there was an African American man

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