This is an I-Heart podcast.

Guaranteed Human.

Hi, I'm Laura Vanderkamp.

I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, and speaker.

And I'm Sarah Hart Unger, a mother of three, practicing physician, writer, and course creator.

We are two working parents who love our careers and our families.

Welcome to Best of Both Worlds.

Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, and time for fun.

From figuring out child care to mapping out long-term career goals,

we want you to get the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura. This

episode is airing in mid-April of 26. We're going to be talking about the time stories that people tell. I have found that

time is very much subject to a storytelling impulse where bits of evidence point to a conclusion.

Negative moments have a tendency to stand out in the mind more than positive ones, so people

often write themselves very negative

stories about where the time goes. But I have found that when we track our time and see the data,

we often discover that life is not nearly as bad as we might have thought. Yeah, I love data.

I think data is underrated. And actually, one of the things I really love about your books. And we are going to be doing some more dedicated discussion of various books, but there's data in the stuff that you put out. And some of that data has to do with time stories. Exactly what we're going to talk about today because it's so easy to be like, oh, my life is all work or I never sleep or things like that.

But without numbers, it's just kind of meaningless.

So I love how you talked about this in big time.

And just because I can't resist, I'm just going to let listeners know that it is available for ordering, not even just pre-orders, in two weeks from when this airs.

Yes. So exciting. My book birthday, yes, is May 5. So another one will be out there in the world. It's so fun to see it. Like, we got the first boxes from the warehouse and open it. And there it is. The book you've been working on for two years exists now, like as a book that people could read. So, I don't know. And it's so good. It's so like, I don't know, everything you write is always very readable and you would think I know everything you have to say. And yet I learned things reading big time. So that is saying something. So even if you think you've read all of her stuff and what can she possibly offer, I think you'll still really enjoy big time.

Oh, well, thank you, Sarah. I appreciate it. But yeah, one of the, this is sort of related to in the opening chapter of big time, which is about time tracking.

...