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The Counsel

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The Counsel

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics

4.7861 Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Elie Honig is a former Assistant U.S. Attorney and co-chief of the organized crime unit at the Southern District of New York, where he prosecuted more than 100 mobsters, including members of La Cosa Nostra, and the Gambino and Genovese crime families. He went on to serve as Director of the Department of Law and Public Safety at New Jersey Division of Criminal Justice. He is currently Special Counsel at Lowenstein Sandler and a CNN legal analyst. For a transcript of Elie’s note and the full archive of contributor notes, head to CAFE.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:41.8

Hey everyone, Ellie here, wishing you a happy Friday, the last Friday before Christmas.

0:47.4

I do kind of love the fact that both Christmas and New Year's fall right smack in the middle of two consecutive weeks,

0:53.9

sort of blowing up both

0:55.3

of those weeks in the best possible sense. So I hope you do get a minute to take a breather,

1:01.0

to take off work, spend time with family, and enjoy the holidays. I do want to say a couple words

1:06.7

before we get into this week's piece about Rob Reiner. I do not want to further discuss the

1:12.9

president's disgraceful response to it. I think everybody, Republican and Democrat alike, for the

1:19.8

most part, is unified in condemning what Trump said. I just don't want to give it any more oxygen.

1:25.0

I do want to take a minute to talk about Rob Reiner himself

1:27.7

because I came to know him a little bit. I don't want to overstate this, but a little bit. Here's the

1:32.9

basic story. So he reached out to me by DM when I started doing this media stuff. It must have been

1:40.4

2018, 19. It was early on. It was right in the beginning, basically. He reached out to me.

1:47.0

There's no way I would have ever just DM'd Rob Reiner with really nice, encouraging little notes.

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