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The Counsel

DOJ's Bungled Epstein Rollout Ignores the Law

The Counsel

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics

4.7861 Ratings

🗓️ 2 January 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Elie Honig is a former Assistant U.S. Attorney and co-chief of the organized crime unit at the Southern District of New York, where he prosecuted more than 100 mobsters, including members of La Cosa Nostra, and the Gambino and Genovese crime families. He went on to serve as Director of the Department of Law and Public Safety at New Jersey Division of Criminal Justice. He is currently Special Counsel at Lowenstein Sandler and a CNN legal analyst. For a transcript of Elie’s note and the full archive of contributor notes, head to ⁠CAFE.com⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hey everyone, Ellie here wishing you a happy Friday for the first time in the year 2026. Whenever we turn the corner

1:13.5

on New Year, it gets me thinking about sort of time more generally not to get super philosophical

1:18.3

on you. But one thing that occurred to me, I'm sure I'm not the first to observe this. We are now

1:23.0

in the second quarter of the 21st century, which boggles my mind. I mean, those people who are

1:29.6

about my age, remember, when the Prince song came out, 1999, I think it came out in the early

1:34.8

80s, 83 or 84, you'd think, oh, man, 1999, 2000, not going to be alive when it happens

1:40.2

that we turn over to 2000. Well, here we are now into the second quartile of the 21st century.

1:48.1

I don't know. It's all crazy. More directly, more recently, think about where we were one year ago.

1:55.3

January 2nd, 2025. Joe Biden was still the president. Kamala Harris was vice president. Donald Trump was just a few

2:03.2

weeks away from taking back office as the 47th president. Think of how much has changed

2:08.8

legally and politically in that one year of Donald Trump's presidency. Will things change as much

2:16.4

in the year ahead? Nobody knows. I have no way of knowing,

2:19.8

but my guess is probably not. I think Trump came in and put in so many changes so aggressively

2:25.6

and so quickly. I don't think we're likely to see quite as much upheaval in 26, but God only knows,

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