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Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee

Tim Spector: Why Everything You’ve Been Told About Food Is Wrong #131

Feel Better, Live More with Dr Rangan Chatterjee

Dr Rangan Chatterjee

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Alternative Health, Mental Health

4.810.9K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2020

⏱️ 129 minutes

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Summary

It’s a bold claim: that (almost) everything you’ve been told about food is wrong. But by the end of today’s conversation, I think you’ll be questioning what you previously thought was true and embarking on a new way of eating that’s right for you. My guest, Tim Spector, is a Professor of Genetic Epidemiology and Head of the Department of Twin Research at King’s College London. He’s a leading expert on the gut microbiome whose work has transformed what we know about nutrition and health. Tim’s latest work highlights how much we really don’t know about food. Aside from the consensus that plant foods are good for us, ultra-processed junk foods are not, there’s very little evidence or expert agreement on anything else. So there’s most definitely not a one-size-fits-all ‘correct’ way to eat. During our chat we cover calorie counting, artificial sweeteners, the dangers of ultra-processed foods and how poor science lets the food industry maintain that its products are healthy, simply because they’ve not been proven to be harmful. We discuss the benefits of fasting, and the perception that you need to graze all day. The diet industry perpetuates the myth that if we don’t have a snack to hand at all times, we’ll have an energy dip, lack focus and we might even faint! For most of us, it’s actually the reverse that’s true. With this in mind, we agree that nutrition should be at the heart of the curriculum in schools. Our children can cope at school without mid-morning and afternoon snacks. I share Tim’s passion that we should be teaching our children how to recognise real versus fake food with the same enthusiasm that we teach them to read and write. I find the concept of personalised nutrition hugely empowering. As Tim states in his most recent book, ‘You are very unlikely to be average’. I’ve seen it first-hand with my patients, many of whom respond completely differently to the same ways of eating. It’s why I describe my approach as ‘diet agnostic’ and, like Tim, I’d actively encourage you to start experimenting with what, how and when you eat. I hope this conversation inspires you to explore what makes you thrive.  Show notes available at drchatterjee.com/131 Follow me on instagram.com/drchatterjee/ Follow me on facebook.com/DrChatterjee/ Follow me on twitter.com/drchatterjeeuk DISCLAIMER: The content in the podcast and on this webpage is not intended to constitute or be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your doctor or other qualified health care provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on the podcast or on my website.

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The billion dollar food companies that have been setting the agenda about research have managed

0:05.7

to avoid any decent studies comparing junk foods against normal foods, and they've continued

0:12.0

to fund all this work about low calorie products, low fat products, and kept these in the

0:19.2

guidelines without ever talking about this other element in the

0:22.8

room.

0:24.0

And they've had this vested interest in doing this.

0:27.1

And that's why we're deluded into having ridiculous TV programs about calorie counting

0:33.9

and the dangers of fats and this obsession on our labels, which most people don't

0:39.8

understand anyway, which detract again from the quality.

0:44.0

Hi, my name is Rongan Chatsky. Welcome to Feel Better Live More.

0:55.2

Hello and welcome. How are you doing? As I record this intro, sitting in my studio on a dark

1:02.8

cold night in November and there is no question that the season has changed and that winter

1:08.4

is on its way. But I hope today's podcast can brighten things up a little

1:13.0

for you. The conversation today is all about foods. And my guest makes a very bold claim in his

1:20.3

latest book, Spoonfed, that almost everything you've been told about food is wrong. He's none other than Professor Tim Specter, head of the Department of Twin Research at

1:32.8

King's College London, medical doctor, and leading global experts in genetic epidemiology

1:39.2

and the gut microbiome.

1:41.5

In fact, Tim was my very first guest on this podcast about two and a half

1:46.1

years ago, a long time ago when actually the podcast format was quite different. It was a lot shorter.

1:53.1

It was quite a different style. So if you want to go back and listen to a 30, 40 minute conversation

1:57.6

where I talked to Tim about gut health, that will be episode number one.

2:02.7

But in our chat today, we go deep. We cover calorie counting, artificial sweeteners,

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