Yo, technology. What is it all about?

They still believe it. They just need to have their noses rubbed in the ways that they're not doing that anymore.

And it's really hard to know whether they are head in the Valley your weekly dispatch from behind the scenes and inside the minds of the top people in tech.

I'm your host, Danny Fortinney, West Coast correspondent for the Sunday Times.

We have a great show for you this week.

Tim O'Reilly is here, and he is one of the leading thinkers out here in Silicon Valley.

He's also the founder of O'Reilly Media, and for decades, he's just shown a real, quite astounding knack for kind of seeing where things are in the tech world and where

they're going and naming them. So terms like open source software, web 2.0, they can all

be traced back to him. And now Tim is noodling around with another concept that we could

soon become also very familiar with, and that is algorithmic rent. And this is really just a way to

frame how the big tech companies operate. They are through this lens, landlords. And they're

extracting rent from us, from their suppliers, you know, small companies, et cetera. And one way or

another, through the use of their algorithms, which of course

funnel what we see, what we are served, what we don't see, and who benefits from that.

So it's an interesting concept, and not least because Google, of course, is being sued by

the government.

Facebook is supposedly within days going to be hit with a separate suit.

Amazon and Apple are still under investigation.

So in other words, the landlords of the internet are under growing pressure. But what's

interesting is that there's very little clarity about how best to really unwind some of their

worst impulses to break their stranglehold, which brings us back to O'Reilly and how he's thinking about

and naming this dynamic that has developed. And hopefully from that, it will help in some way

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