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bulwark here. Just back from a late night spot with my girl Stephanie Rule on the 11th hour

and Pablo Torre and Dan Co. And boy, did we get into a bunch of stuff. In some ways,

one of the segments was a little bit of a follow-up on my interview with Jason Calacanah,

so we didn't discuss it per se, but we covered this material, which was, what are the CEOs doing?

Why are they willing to suck up to Trump like this? Why are they treating him like a

downmarket banana republic caudio or a third rate royal, you know, who needs to have alms given to him

in order to avoid tariffs.

It feels like they should be upset about that.

It feels like they should be speaking out about that, but they're not.

And so we discuss why.

I also discussed a little bit of something that I wanted to get into a J-Calb.

I just didn't get the time, which was, aren't they concerned that the backlash against their behavior is going to yield a democratic response that they like even less than Joe Biden and Kamala Harris?

That the backlash might be a little zoron pilled.

So we get into that.

Steph tries to get me to care about the Kennedy Center thing.

And I just, I just can't do it.

We talk a little Ukraine. We talk everything. D.C.

A lot to discuss. It was a doozy.

So I hope you enjoy it.

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