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Bulwark Takes

Decoding Trump’s Kennedy Center Fever Dream

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

News, News Commentary, Politics, Society & Culture

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Sam Stein and Sarah Longwell react to Trump’s Kennedy Center announcement, mixing Phantom of the Opera with wild tangents on D.C. crime and grass.

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0:00.0

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0:39.1

You know, my favorites are ones that mix my most favorite two topics, which is politics and musical theater.

0:47.5

And so, you know, it's Avita. It's Hamilton. You know, I'm Les the French Revolution. Oh, my God. 1776. There's lots of good, there's lots of good political musicals, man. Fair enough. Well, you and Trump do have something uncommon, it appears, after all. Yeah, but his favorite musical is like cats. And L-A-Miz. Yeah, but L-A-Mis is a great show. He likes Phantom. He likes Phantom. Do you like Phantom of the opera? It's not my favorite. It's fine. It's fine. He's more of a Claxes guy. Okay, cool. Well, that's great. So Trump had a big event this morning where he was going to unveil who was going to get the, who was going to be the

1:28.2

honorees for the Kennedy Center Awards this year. And lo and behold, he threw a real

1:33.4

curveball at us, although I suppose not that big a curveball concerning as Trump. Let's listen to

1:38.2

his opening remarks and get some reaction on the backside.

1:40.8

I'm delighted to be here as we officially announced the incredibly talented artists who will be

1:48.0

celebrated later this year at the 2025 Kennedy Center Honors.

1:54.0

It's going to be a big evening.

1:57.0

I've been asked to host.

1:59.0

I said, I'm the President of the United States.

2:02.6

Are you fools asking me to do that?

2:04.6

Sir, you'll get much higher ratings.

2:07.6

I said, I don't care.

2:08.6

I'm President of the United States.

2:10.6

I won't do it.

2:11.6

They said, please.

2:13.6

And then Susie Well said to me, sir, I'll get a host.

2:16.6

I said, okay, Susie, I'll do it. That's the power she's got. But I just, so I have agreed to host, do you believe what I have to do? And I didn't want to do it, okay? They're going to say, he insisted. I did not insist. But I think it will be quite successful, quite successful. It's been a long time.

2:35.3

I used to host the apprentice finalies, and we did rather well with that.

2:39.6

It reminded me of that scene in Anchorman, where Ron Burgundy is at the jazz club,

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