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Impolitic with John Heilemann

Tim Miller: Fissures, Fault Lines & The Great MAGA Crackup

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.84.5K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

John welcomes Tim Miller, host of The Bulwark Podcast, back to the show to discuss the signs this week that Donald Trump’s fabled base — and broader political coalition — may be starting to unravel. Tim dissects the two main stressors creating fissures within MAGA: Trump's efforts to deep six the Epstein files in the face of his coalition's concerns about pedophilia among the political and financial elite; and the normalization of anti-Semitism on the right as personified by Groyper godfather Nick Fuentes. Tim and John also wax lyrical about the band of this moment, Geese, and ponder the possibility of a previously unreported anatomical commonality between Trump and Epstein. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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Aloha and namaste everyone and welcome to Impolitic with John Howman, a puck and Odyssey joint

0:41.3

featuring lively, in-depth conversations with the people who cruise the corridor's power in America, sculpting and shaping the ebbin flow of our politics and our culture.

0:50.3

In the 10 years since Donald Trump launched his first campaign for president, no single faction

0:56.6

or force in U.S. politics has been more fierce or formidable than the MAGA movement.

1:01.8

Even when Trump himself has been broadly, widely, and at times deeply unpopular with the

1:06.1

electorate writ large, MAGA, love it or hate it, you know how I feel, has remained energized, unified,

1:13.2

relentless, and remorseless. But this week, all of that began or certainly seemed to begin

1:18.9

to change as MAGA for the first time began to show signs of fracturing under stress.

1:24.9

As distinct fissures and fault lines emerged where before there had been only pristine,

1:30.1

unbudgeable solidarity and support for, or, if you prefer, unhinged and incomprehensibly

1:37.0

slavish fealty towards the maximum leader slash mad king of Maralago.

1:43.3

To discuss these remarkable extraordinary at times jaw-dropping developments in the two main

1:48.0

wedges that have created or exposed the fissures, ball lines, and fractures within Maga,

1:53.6

the scourge of pedophilia as personified by Jeffrey Epstein, and the plague of anti-Semitism,

1:59.4

as embodied by Nick Fuentes.

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