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🗓️ 19 October 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Megan Basham and Jon Harris discuss Gavin Ortlund's recent defense of Tim Keller's "Third Way" contextualization philosophy.
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| 1:04.1 | I know it's a weekend. |
| 1:05.1 | I hope it's a beautiful one for you. |
| 1:07.2 | It is for me. |
| 1:08.2 | Fall in New York is absolutely amazing. |
| 1:10.4 | My wife and I and our little baby went to |
| 1:12.8 | see, well, we were hoping to see a ghost walk last night, which is like a, it's not really ghost. |
| 1:18.3 | It's a old mansion where people dress up in colonial apparel. And we didn't get tickets. So I went |
| 1:23.8 | and I was like, that's a big bummer. It was like an hour away at this big mansion. But we had this amazing walk. And as the sun was setting over the Hudson River, I just thought, man, it doesn't get better. This is the time of year for that. And so anyway, I just wanted to say that up front, start with a little positivity here. But the Lord's Day, of course, is tomorrow. And, you know, I think about this sometimes. |
| 1:46.2 | A lot of preachers, they ascend the pulpit. And the prep time, I mean, Saturday is like that |
| 1:51.3 | prep day, right? Saturday is the day. You're putting fine, you're fine-tuning the sermon. |
| 1:55.4 | You're getting ready. And so many influences, I think, grasp at the attention of a preacher. |
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