Our senses are not the problem on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

This week on the podcast, I have with me, Dr. Lee Edmonds.

He's been teaching medicine and Bible for over 40 years.

He teaches patients, young doctors, counsellees, and church members, all with passion to grow

in their understanding of the subject.

And Lee and his wife, Jean, live in Cooperstown, New York, where Lee practices

pulmonary and sleep medicine, and they are the parents of five grown children. Dr. Edmund is so great

to be with you today. Thanks for joining me. Oh, thanks for the invitation, Dale. We're going to talk

about the subject of the senses, and this crosses over concept of the body and the inner man.

And I'm so grateful for us tackling

this subject. I'm looking forward to how you're going to address some of these issues.

I want us to first start. When we think about the senses or sensuality, that's a common topic

today. We may not think about it or press our minds to think about it much, but it's very natural

for us to be sensual-type people. So what's the notion of sensuality that you're describing

here? Well, I think the first thing we have to always recognize is that God made us sensate creatures,

gave us senses to use, to see the world we live in. And I think culturally that's been hijacked in ways.

But if you really get down to the notion, even if you look in Webster for the definition

of sensuality, it has to do with the gratification of the senses and physical pleasure,

especially around sexuality because that's such an intense pleasure for people. But the gratification

that doesn't happen in your eyes, that happens in your mind. And so you realize that what's

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