starving our desires on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

I'm so thrilled to have with me today, Dr. Keith Evans, a good friend of mine.

He is an associate professor of Christian counseling at RTS in Charlotte.

He's been in academia for nine years, teaching at a seminary even prior to his time at RTS

Charlotte.

He was a pastor before that for seven years in Lafayette, Indiana, and he is married to Melissa.

They have four girls.

And Keith, it's so wonderful.

We get to spend time with you today and get to talk to you.

I always enjoy our time together, and we're going to be talking about this issue of starving

our desires.

More specifically, we're going to talk about the topic of fasting. And, man,

I am, I am super thrilled to get into this. Welcome to the podcast, brother. Thank you so much. Very glad to be here, Dale. Now, as we talk about fasting, some people say, oh, man, I don't know if I want to hear that. I'm going to turn this off today. But honestly, I think this is something that we need to consider more often. It seems to have lost its meaning, essence, or practice in the modern realm.

And maybe we think it's mystical or some sort of ancient practice.

And we don't hear it much in the modern church.

Why do you think scripture seems to place it in a much more prominent role than what we see experienced

or practiced today?

Yeah.

So I think that scripture sees it as functionally the exclamation point to our prayers.

Not that we can manipulate God, not that it's superstitious in any way, but this is a means that God has given to his people to say, here's how we can put an emphasis on our prayers.

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