What can an unbeliever know on this edition of Truth and Love?

I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

This week on the podcast, I have with me Dr. Greg Gifford.

He's an assistant professor of biblical counseling at the Masters University.

He earned his Ph.D. in biblical counseling from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary,

Master of Arts in Biblical counseling from the Masters University,

and a BA in pastoral ministries from Baptist Bible College.

He has worked as both full-time biblical counselor and associate pastor before joining the TMU faculty.

Greg also served as a captain in the United States Army from 2008 to 2012,

after which he transitioned to counseling ministry.

And he's published two books, Heart and Habits,

and also helping your family through PTSD. He's certified fellow and counselor with the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors, and he's an ordained pastor. When not teaching, Greg enjoys

counseling for 180 ministries, serving his local church as an elder, working on his Harley Davidson,

wrestling with the three boys and eating good food

with his wife. Greg, it's good to have you back, brother. Thank you for having me back. Good to be here.

Yeah, looking forward to our topic today. This has been a common thing that we've talked about a lot

in the counseling world, especially things that we can know as human beings, what our minds can

know, and especially how we think about unbelievers. This relates to all sorts of topics.

So I want us to get into this as we think about what can unbelievers know. I think this is

something good for us to wrestle with, to think from a Christian perspective, post-Genesis

three, how our minds have been affected by sin,

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