counseling individuals from a different theological background on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified

Biblical Counselors, where we seek to provide biblical

solutions to the problems that people face.

This week on the podcast I have with me, Marshall Adkins.

He serves as assistant professor of biblical counseling at Spurgeon College and Midwestern

Baptist Theological Seminary in Kansas City, Missouri.

So a new colleague of mine that I'm so grateful for. He's also the assistant director of the Center for Biblical Counseling at Midwestern. He's married to Rachel, and they have three children. Brother, it's so good to have you here. I'm looking forward to this topic. It's one that maybe we don't think about a lot, but we certainly encounter all the time. So grateful that you're here with me.

Thanks, Dale. Great to be here. Now, as we think about this particular issue, as I mentioned,

we encounter this quite often. I mean, if you think about my visitations to the UK and the various

denominations and how differently those are structured, and think about the different denominations

we have here in the United States and how differently those are structured. And most of them fall along lines that are distinctions in theological commitments. And yet here we are at ACBC. We're attempting to have specific theological commitments that do exceed very specific types of theological commitments that you would find

within distinctions and denominations.

And so we're going to find ourselves counseling all sorts of people.

Give you an example.

I remember when I was counseling in my local church, we would have people from all sorts of persuasions.

Maybe a church down the street or church in another

county, did not have any type of counseling ministry. And they heard that we were doing some decent

work. And so they started sending people to us. And before long, we were meeting with people who

were of often very different theological persuasion. So this is a real thing. And then how do we

approach these types

of things? So I want you to, like, ease us in here, and let's talk about some broad categories,

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