Counseling for the Church on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth and Love,

a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

This week on the podcast, I'm delighted to have with me, Dr. Jason Allen.

He serves as a fifth president of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary here in Kansas City, Missouri.

Since coming to Midwestern Seminary, he has led the institution to become one of the largest

and fastest growing seminaries

in North America. In addition to his role as president, Dr. Allen serves as professor for preaching

and pastor of ministry. He is the author of numerous books, including Letters to My Students,

Volumes 1 and 2, succeeding at Seminary, and Turnaround the Remarkable Story of an Institutional

Transformation and the 10

essential principles and practices that made it happen. Dr. Allen regularly posts essays on his

website, jasonk.allin.com, and hosts a weekly podcast, preaching, and preachers, which can also

be found at jasonk.allon he and his wife karen are both from mobile

alabama and have five children anne marie caroline william alden and elizabeth dr allen i'm so

grateful that you're here with me today welcome to truth and love delighted to be with you dale

and delighted to have you on the team here serving at midwestern seminary and of course probably

your leadership of ac bc as well thank you. And I'll just say up front, it's such a joy to be here, the excitement on campus, the way the Lord has just shown favor and kindness to us, no doubt due to your leadership and commitment to him as well in the way that you lead. And I want to talk today about counseling for the church.

Now I'm going to pull out this idea for the church.

This is a mantra that you started even 10 years ago here at Midwestern Seminary.

And I want you to just talk broadly about that vision.

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