Keeping the gospel central in counseling on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love,

a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people

face. This week on the podcast, I have with me, Pastor Keith Christensen. Keith is the preaching

pastor of Christ Fellowship Bible Church. It's a recent church plant in the Fort Worth, Texas

area. Keith is a certified ACBC counselor, has been involved in training, biblical counselor since

2016. He helps one of our great training centers down in the Fort Worth, Texas area,

Center for Biblical Counseling and Discipleship. Keith and his wife, live there in Fort Worth,

and have five children. Brother, I'm so grateful that you are here with us, reminding us of the beauty

of the gospel in counseling. Let me just say a couple of things really quick that I think are

important to address here. I think it's obvious we do see a drift, a tendency in counseling,

even in churches among believers, to drift towards something where we think it improves

upon the gospel, or it improves upon the scriptures, or it adds to depth and degree of the effectiveness

of scripture. I'm grateful that you're wanting to bring us back to the centerpiece of the gospel, that we never grow over it, we never improve upon it, and that it always has to be a centerpiece in the work that we do in the counseling room.

It is by nature now who we are as Bible believers who trust in the Lord Jesus and his work alone.

That's who we are.

So I want to start here.

Make a case for us in this situation.

Make a case for us about biblical counselors needing to keep the gospel central throughout the counseling process.

Because we might even start well. And then we sort of drift away from the gospel central throughout the counseling process, because we might even start

well, and then we sort of drift away from the gospel. Make this case for us. Yes, and I appreciate it.

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