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Truth in Love

TIL 387: Forgiving Where There Is Not Repentance (feat. George Sanders)

Truth in Love

Association of Certified Biblical Counselors

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.8628 Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2022

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

1. Does our sense of justice need to be satisfied before we forgive someone?

2. Should Christians forgive unconditionally in every case?

3. What is the difference between reconciliation and forgiveness?

 

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forgiving when there is not repentance on this edition of Truth and Love.

0:12.1

I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

0:17.7

where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

0:22.6

And this week on the podcast, I am so delighted to introduce you to one of my friends, Dr. George

0:27.8

Sanders. George is a plastic surgeon who practices in Los Angeles. He was born and raised in

0:33.0

Southeast Texas. George graduated from Rice University down in Houston. He attended Harvard Medical School and then completed his general surgery training at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. His plastic surgery residency was done at UCLA. And since that time, he has been in private practice in LA. While in Boston, that was an important point of your life,

0:56.5

Dr. Sanders, where you met Anna, your wife, doing a dietetic internship. And after their marriage,

1:01.7

they moved to L.A. where they've enjoyed 43 years of marital bliss. It's so much fun,

1:07.3

honestly, to watch you two together. I love the relationship that you guys have.

1:11.6

Both have been ACBC certified for a number of years and they counseled together, which is

1:15.6

a joy as well. In their spare time, George and Anna loved to serve in the ministry together,

1:19.6

as well as travel, entertain, and just hang out. They have two adult children who are both

1:24.6

believers, both married, and they have two grandsons, which we get to

1:28.7

hear about a lot, and I enjoy that.

1:30.6

George also serves on the board of directors at the Masters University and seminary, long-time

1:35.5

members at Grace Community Church in California.

1:38.9

Dr. Sanders, it's a thrill to finally get you on the podcast and let our listeners hear a little

1:43.9

bit from you. So thank you for

1:44.8

being with me. Now, as we start this, we're going to talk about the issue of forgiveness. And here's

1:49.0

what I love about this. I want to preface it this way. I mentioned in the bio that you are a surgeon.

1:56.0

And the beauty of what we talk about in biblical counseling is that you can be brilliant in

2:00.8

some area of surgery. And it doesn counseling is that you can be brilliant in some

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