The noetic effects of the fall in psychology on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth in Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to

provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face. And today on the podcast, I have with

me, Dr. Jen Chin. Jen has been with us before, but I am very delighted for her to be with us this

time to talk about this particular topic. Let me introduce you to her if you don't know, Jen.

She is well educated. Thank the Lord for that. We love education. She has a master's degree in

marriage and family therapy, practiced actually for 17 years in the inner city in L.A.

And also received a master's and a doctoral degree in clinical psychology and actually taught clinical psychology as an instructor for UCLA as well.

And, Jen, I'm delighted that you're here.

You also received an MABC from the Masters University, and you now currently teach there as an adjunct professor in their online

program with Dr. Ernie Baker.

And so, listen, I'm grateful that you're here.

And recently we were together for our ACBC Colloquium.

It's where we gather 35 or 40 leaders in the biblical counseling movement, and this year we

considered the myths of modern psychiatry.

And you presented a paper that I think was just so intriguing. I wanted us to be able to do a

podcast on some of those subjects. I think it would be really important for so many of our people,

or pastors even, to hear and listen to some of the research that you were able to do. Here's the

title, and it is academic, so we're going to break that you were able to do. Here's the title, and it is

academic, so we're going to break that down in the podcast today. It was on research,

neuroscience, modern psychotherapies, and the noetic effects of the fall. And I love the way that

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