A final conversation with ACBC's new executive director on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Heath Lambert and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide

biblical solutions for the problems that people face.

You've been hearing me talk about on the podcast that ACBC has made a very exciting announcement

that in October we will install a new executive director, Dr. Dale Johnson.

When I went to the ACBC board last year and told them I needed out and that we needed to find

a replacement so that I could devote my full attention to First Baptist Church here in Jacksonville,

Florida, I could not have imagined then that we would find a candidate

who I believe is as well suited for this role as Dr. Johnson is. In fact, during the time of the

board's deliberation on his potential as the next executive director, I said to them at one point,

guys, this is the best guy

there is. In fact, he is so well suited for this role, I think you should hire him for the job,

even if I didn't want to leave. And so I am really, really thankful that this is something that

the board wanted to do, and I'm really, really thankful that this is something that Dr. Johnson wanted to do. I think we are well-suited to move into the future with

strength and with faithfulness. And Dr. Johnson, we're really glad that you are here with us again this

week to continue to talk about your life and your ministry and the new involvement that you're going to

have at ACBC.

You'd mentioned a couple of weeks ago about your interest in biblical counseling first being

awakened.

Why don't you explain to us a little bit more how you came to be interested in biblical counseling?

So when I was in college playing baseball, all the guys wanted to make money, and so they

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