continuing the conversation with ACBC's new executive director on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Heath Lambert and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors, where we seek

to provide biblical solutions for the problems that people face.

We are in the midst of an interview with the man that the ACBC board voted in March to be

the next executive director of our organization.

I want you to know how excited I am personally about this change.

When I went to the ACBC board last year and told them we needed to find somebody to replace me,

and they asked me to sit on the transition committee that would look for my replacement,

it became very clear to me very early that Dale Johnson was the man who should have this

job. And so I was thrilled to be able to be the one on the committee that made the motion

that we referred Dale to the board of ACBC for their consideration

and approval because I could think of nobody better to lead our organization than him. And so,

Dr. Johnson, I want you to know what an honor it is for me to sit here with you and how much

expectation I have about the leadership you're going to offer to our organization.

And I want to just continue asking you some questions about your life and ministry.

You had said last week on the podcast about your call to Christian ministry in general,

why don't you share with us the ministry that

you've been having over the last few years? Yeah, the ministry is kind of split in two different

directions. Once leaving seminary, I began to serve in a local church setting. I served as an

associate pastor of family life, in which my responsibility was anything

from children all the way up to young marids. As a part of that task, one of the things I was

responsible for is beginning a counseling ministry. Our current pastor really had a vision to

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