A few months ago on this show, we did a short episode on Tiktok's national security risks.

And since then, we've gotten even more information about the dangers of the China-owned company.

We've seen evidence of Tiktok spying on U.S. journalists.

We've seen evidence of Tiktok hidden state media accounts to influence U.S. elections.

We've seen Congress recently ban Tiktok on most government-issue devices, at least 31

states have done the same thing, along with dozens of U.S. universities who are banning

Tiktok access from university Wi-Fi networks.

And we've seen FBI director Christopher Ray, noting that by Chinese law, by dance, which

is the company that owns Tiktok, is obligated to honor the wishes of the Chinese government.

Under Chinese law, Chinese companies are required to essentially, and I'm going to shorthand

here, basically do whatever the Chinese government wants them to in terms of sharing information

or serving as a tool of the Chinese government.

We also called early for the need to ban Tiktok, not as a total solution to the problems

of the attention economy that we've discussed on this show, but as a first and important

step to deal with an honest threat.

And we were accused of being xenophobic or participating in a new red scare against Chinese

apps.

But we're already seeing more people in the government and media saying they used to believe

that it was sort of an overblown threat.

But as we've seen more evidence of these national security risks playing out, we have to take

these questions seriously.

But how do we, as open societies, who might, in this case, ban Tiktok, fight accusations

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