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I'm so glad. We're not. This is hell. Now. Greetings listeners, this is board operator Dan on the mic at the top of the hour because Chuck is feeling a bit under the weather.

Given his recent health scare, we want Chuck. Chuck is feeling a bit under the weather.

Given his recent health scare, we want Chuck to take all the time in the world to heal up,

not push things too hard while he's getting up to 100%.

Chuck is planning to get back in the studio ASAP, but for today I'll be playing an interview

from the vaults. And this morning I've selected a 22-2020 interview from Gergesk Callis and Susan Paulson when they spoke to Chuck about their book

The Case for De Growth.

Before we get to that, let's just quickly remind you all about the question from hell.

This week's question from hell is,

What policy are you proposing to make gym class even more awful for everyone.

What policy are you proposing to make gym class

even more awful for everyone?

You can give your answer to the question from hell by heading over to Facebook.com slash This is Hell Radio.

We'll read your answers on air and at the end of the week our favorite answer will get some this This is Hell Swag. Chuck recently spoke with

Dominic Boyer about the folly of economic growth. During that interview he

mentioned a past interview on the topic with Gergos Callis and Susan Paulson who authored the book The Case for Degrowth.

I wanted to dig a little deeper and I'm sure I wasn't the only one.

So let's go to that 2020 interview.

This is hell.

We need economic growth. The economy needs to constantly grow and we need to continuously consume for our economy to work best for us.

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