Danny, welcome to the Rogman Cycling Podcast. How are you, my friend? I'm really good, buddy, really

good. I'm excited about this chat. I was listening to a podcast. I was out on a ride two days ago,

and I was listening to an episode of the Joe Rogan podcast, and he was interviewing this girl.

I'm not sure if you've heard it yet. Yimini Park is her name, and she escaped from North Korea.

It's a brilliant podcast, but why I thought it was super irrelevance to our conversation was

she speaks about how food is weaponized in North Korea, how they use food to enslave the population

because they keep them hungry.

And when they keep them hungry and they're always worried about where the next meal is

coming from, they can't think about political choices, they can't think about spirituality,

they can't think about the meaning of life.

And then I started drawing parallels on our society in the West and thinking,

hunger isn't our method of enslavement, but materialism and commercialism is.

People are kept so busy working 50-hour jobs to pay for houses.

They don't need that big.

SUV is that they're never going to drive off-road and watches that they just don't know

the difference between a 20,000 20,000 euro watch and a 50

thousand year a watch. I feel like the early part of your life looking into your backstory a

little bit, you maybe had that wrong focus or enslaved by materialism. Is that fair to say?

Yeah. But you know, what it really is is, you know, when you go deep enough and you unravel

everything, what it really is is a disconnection with yourself. Because when you're disconnected

with yourself, when you're disconnected with who you really are, then you're disconnected with your

inner world. You're disconnected with your inner world.

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