Throwback Thursday: Milo Aukerman discusses Descendents “Hope”

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Chris DeMakes

Music History, Music Commentary, Music, Music Interviews

4.9 • 923 Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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For Throwback Thursday this week, we’re revisiting Episode 102—originally released on May 9, 2022—when Milo Aukerman sat in to share the story behind the 1982 Descendents fan favorite “Hope.” Milo talks about writing the song as a young, awkward romantic, how it found its way onto Milo Goes to College, and what it was like recording one of the most unexpectedly tender tracks in early punk. It’s a fun, honest conversation full of laughs, memories, and insight into a song that still connects with anyone who’s ever fallen hard and felt a little weird about it. Chris DeMakes A Podcast is brought to you by DistroKid, the ultimate partner for taking your music to the next level. Get 30% off your first YEAR with DistroKid by signing up at ⁠http://distrokid.com/vip/demakes ⁠ For bonus episode of The After Party podcast, an extensive back catalog of past After Party episodes, early ad-free releases of new episodes of Chris DeMakes A Podcast, full video versions of episodes, and MUCH more, head to the Patreon at ⁠http://www.ChrisDeMakes.com ⁠ Follow Chris DeMakes A Podcast on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/chrisdemakesapodcast/⁠ Join the Chris DeMakes A Podcast community on Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/2643961642526928/⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:45.1	It's Throwback Thursday again.
0:46.8	And this week, we're throwing it back to episode 102 of Chris to makes a podcast when Milo
0:52.1	Ackerman sat in to discuss the writing and recording of the
0:55.3	fan favorite 1982 descendant song, Hope. Now, for anyone who doesn't know, this is the 13th track
1:02.5	out of 15 on the album, a 15 song album that lasts a whole 22 minutes and 10 seconds. The title of
1:10.2	the album is literal, as Milo was, in fact,
1:14.0	going to college to study biology at UC San Diego. And the whole album was recorded in a matter
1:20.1	of a few days at Total Access Recording in Redondo Beach, and it was released on New Alliance
1:25.5	Records. And even though it wasn't a commercial
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