don't give up the dream because if you're not going to be happy you're just not there's

nothing that's going to fulfill you as much as what you want to do but sometimes you do have to

have a plan B and even a plan C.

Hey guys, you're listening to the Big Conversations podcast.

I'm your host, Haley Hoffman Smith.

I'm an entrepreneur, a best-selling author, and a Forbes most influential speaker.

You're in the right place if you're ready to step into the bigger life that you were destined for

because we're about to get real on how to do so.

So let's get started with today's big conversation.

Hi friends and welcome back to big important conversations. I'm thrilled to be here with Linda

Hurtado, an Emmy winning journalist who has over 20 years of experience on air.

And our conversation today is indeed important,

perhaps one of the most important conversations we can have,

which is about why it's so important to go after what we most fear,

to live a life that thrills us.

So, Linda, thank you for coming on.

Thank you for inviting me.

I love to talk about thrills and chills because I think if you're not feeling either or maybe both, you're not living your full life, right? Oh, that's so good. Yeah, you're just kind of going through the motions. I completely agree. Girls and chills. Yes. Okay, but take us back because I think there's a lot of people, myself included her for a while, we're like, you have to play it safe. Our parents taught us to play it safe, go after this, you know, credible career path. And I know that you right out the gate, you took a job that was a salary of like $13,000 to follow your real passion. And like, that's so scary. I know so many people who want to, you know,

quit their day jobs to go after their side hustles. But that fear element is there. Were you always the type of person who we're like, let's go after it? I'm a daredevil. You know, a couple of different things. I've always been the type of person that believes that hard work will pay off. I'm not afraid to work hard. so there's that

and then I'm also the type of person

that when challenged, like, you can't do this, you can't survive on $13,000 a year. I'm like, oh, yes, I can. Walk me. Move on, right, you know. So when I found out that was after going to school for four years and having to work three jobs to get through college, that I was only going to be making $13,000 a year, I thought, okay, well, how am I going to do this, right?

And I had help, and not everybody does, but my mom would come. And while she didn't have a lot of financial help, she would go grocery shopping and pack my covers full of food. And you learn how to

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