Good evening. You are listening to Three Moves Ahead. I'm Len. I'm your host. I'm here with Aftermath's Luke Plunkett.

Hello, everybody.

With freelance writer John Bolding.

Nine kings in this economy?

You knew it was coming. And with our friend Mike Williams.

Oh, I don't get a cool title other than I just get our friend.

Well, you're three, well, you are three moves ahead's Mike Williams also.

Okay, that works.

That works.

You're core cast at this point, you know.

I'll have it known that I made that joke in our slack before John did, but John took it live to the people first.

Did you really make it?

Well, you know, years ago, years ago now, I tweeted, what if I became the kind of guy who only had one joke?

And ever since, I just got the one joke.

Yeah, yeah, there have been some good ones. We should do it in this economy, John

Bowling compilation. Oh, God. Like a gift book at some point.

You know, that'd be fun.

But we're here today to talk about, in fact, Nine Kings, which is the latest from the horse,

from Hooded Horse and Sad Socket is the developer.

I don't know what else they have made.

It looks like this is probably, this is actually their first Steam game.

They have another one that's upcoming.

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