You are listening to Three Moves Ahead, the official podcast of Flash of Steel.com.

I am your host, Troy Goodfellow.

And with me today is freelance writer Rob Zakney.

Hello.

And freelance writer Julian Murdoch.

And unlike Darwinians, I have no soul.

Yes, this week we're going to be talking about introversion, the introversion aesthetic,

the introversion ethos, and introversion as a strategy game developer,

both because of their announcement of their heist, burglary, spy, sabotage, whatever game called Subversion,

and the release of Darwinia Plus on the Xbox, which has consumed quite a few hours.

In fact, just a couple of the maps have consumed quite a few hours.

It's a very hard game.

So this week it is all introversion,

one of our favorite independent developers, one of the most popular independent developers,

especially over on Rock Paper Shotgun, one of our, I'm not going to say partner sites,

since no official connection, but I love those guys. So, hi, Rob here,, shotgun. So introversion. So, Julian, you're a big

DefCon guy. I'm actually a big introversion fanboy, I think you could say. Although a lot of

that fanboyism is really reserved for, for DefCon itself, which just i i defcon an uplink too i think

are phenomenally underrated games both of which that i i've played countless hours of less uplink

uplinked's kind of a one-hit wonder but but defcon i really think is one of those perfect little gems of a game that everything that it tries to do, it does very, very well.

It's not big. It's not complex. But boy, when you get three or four people together, you start getting alliances going, it captures that feeling of playing risk when you're 12 years old and wanting to reach across the table and punch somebody in the face. And to me, that's always the sign of a great game. So, yeah, I am. I'm a big introversion fan boy. I'll admit it. So what do you think is introversions appeal for you? I mean, they've done, what, three games, four games? Well well it sort of depends how you count

I mean really I sort of consider

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