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Three Moves Ahead

Three Moves Ahead 400: Dream Daddy Civil War

Three Moves Ahead

Idle Thumbs

Strategy, Games & Hobbies, War, Strategy Games, Games, War Games, Video Games

4.8532 Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2017

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

Forgive us. The title was Rowan's fault. Rob and Rowan have been playing Ultimate General: Civil War and Gettysburg: The Tide Turns, and those games have got them thinking about what they really, truly want from a Civil War wargame. Rowan talks about how he wants to feel like a commander in the field, dealing with the same uncertainty and dynamics that Civil War generals faced. Rob agrees, but also wants a game that feels roughly true to the historical record, yet also wants the capacity to be surprised. In other words, we want it all. Rowan also proposes that Sid Meier's Gettysburg, at this point, casts too long a shadow and its influence is stifling other approaches to tactical wargame design.

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0:00.0

Good evening. You are listening to Three Moves Ahead, and I'm your host, Rob Zakney.

0:04.3

Join me today, we have our friend, freelance writer, and Games Beat, PC gaming, field correspondent.

0:12.2

Sure.

0:13.2

Yeah, absolutely. Rowan Kaiser.

0:17.5

Hello. It's guest post editor, but whatever. It's something PC. Within that space, it's the PC gaming Kaiser Reich. Yes. That's what it should be.

0:30.5

I am in charge of political correctness.

0:34.1

So today we're going to be talking about Civil War Wargaming, apropos of a couple

0:40.5

recent releases that kind of caught me by surprise.

0:44.2

One is Ultimate General Civil War, which I didn't realize was such an imminent release.

0:50.1

And then the other one is Shenandoah's Gettysburg, The Tide Turns,

0:58.1

aka Battle Him Gettysburg, which is a curious wrinkle I found in this game.

1:04.3

We'll get to that in a second.

1:06.4

So we've got a couple new Civil War war games to talk about.

1:13.6

And I'm not sure either one is necessarily a full show, but they have very different approaches to simulating Civil War

1:19.2

combat. And it seemed like we both come into these games with sort of strong feelings

1:25.8

about what we want from a good Civil War game.

1:28.9

Now, I think for you, Rowan, as long as there's some Western theater action, you seem to be pretty happy.

1:35.6

But what are you looking for from a Civil War game beyond Shiloh?

1:42.2

The answer can't be Chickamauga.

1:43.8

Yes. Yeah. The answer can't be Chickamauga.

1:48.7

Okay. Burfreesboro,

1:51.2

Chancellor'sville, I guess.

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