Good evening. You are listening to Three Moves Ahead, and I'm your guest host this week, Sean Sands.

Joining me this week, we have Rowan Kaiser. Hello, Rowan. Hello, again. Hello, and we have

T.J. Hayfer. Hi, T.J. Hey, what's going on? I'm just hosting a Three Moves ahead. Oh, okay, cool.

Yeah, that's good. I love that podcast. It's all right.

If I'm hosting, there's a pretty good chance that the topic is going to be Europa Universe

Alice for, and that is exactly what we're going to talk about for the next hour. So the rights man

expansion came out. Now it's about a month old. I know when it first came out, we were all pretty high on it and wanted to get a chance to come back and talk to it.

But in general, now that it's been out for a few weeks, I do want to kind of touch in on that.

But I also want to just get this sort of a state of the game as a whole.

You know, I was looking up before we started recording. EU4 is three years old.

It turned three years old just this past August. The Rights of Man is its ninth expansion.

So, you know, I kind of want to get into it a little bit like how far does this particular train go?

Even, you know, we can look at something like Crusader Kings too as well.

What's the exit strategy for a game like this?

But first, I want to dive a bit into rights of man.

And it's funny.

And then I'll throw it to you guys because I'm interested in what you think.

But I was looking back at the things that were added with expansion and how much some of those things have just insinuated themselves into like my standard expectation for the game.

I mean, I think of the big ones are like institutions.

Yeah.

For the, you know, the great powers, regencies, you know, there's all these huge improvements. TJ, I'm curious. Have you kind of gotten to that point, too, where it's just like, well, well, yeah, these are all supposed to be in the game. Well, it's funny. Like, when people ask me, I get asked a lot, you know, like if I'm new to the series,

which expansions should I buy? And with CK2, that's pretty easy because I can think back to

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