Good evening, you are listening to Three Moves Ahead, and I'm your host, Rob Zakney.

Tonight, we will be drinking our coffee from a massive chalice.

But first, we need some coffee, which is why we have our friend, quarter to three, blogger, Tom Check.

I'm sorry, I'm not serving coffee today, but if anybody would like a nice cup of age and rage, I will gladly bring it to you.

Okay, I'll buy it. What on earth is age and rage?

Oh, my God.

It sounds like somebody still needs to do some research in massive chalice.

That's right. You would prioritize them the wrong things. You need to kill some more wrinklers.

Yeah, so age and rage, and we'll get into the game playing a little bit,

it's a great example of how massive chalice ties together,

the tactical level and the strategic level,

the tactical considerations with the long-term strategic considerations.

There are a couple of really clever things the game does,

and age and rage potions are one of those examples.

Okay, see, for me, I just had the wrong context.

I was trying to place age and rage in the 40 aisle of a liquor store.

So that's where my mind was going.

Anyway, we also welcome back our friend Game Designer from the Game Design Roundtable, David Heron.

Thank you.

Super excited to be back again.

Yeah, so today we're going to be talking about Double Finds Massive Chalice, and that is a game that, David, you seemed quite eager to talk about a couple weeks back, and Tom, you not only reviewed it very positively over in quarter to three,

but you also devoted quite a few entries in a really cool game diary, sort of chronicling your

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