Good evening. You are listening to Three Moves Ahead, and I'm your host, Rob Zakney. We're kicking

at old school today. It's just me and my buddy, Three Moves Ahead founder, Troy Goodfellow.

Troy, welcome back to the show. It is always good to be back where I belong. I miss the place when I'm not on it, especially when you guys are talking about games that I love like EU4. Yeah, you know, and one of the things that I've really been loving an EU4, and I think it's sort of a point of departure for this show, is, you know, the Rebels with a Cause feature that was touted a little bit during the, you know, development cycle.

And I'm finding I'm really enjoying it. And, you know, I've got, you know, I know, I know you were thinking about sort of discussing how we,

you know, how various games model rebels and dissenters and discontent. And, you know, with my

experience in EU4, I, I got to admit, I do find that giving rebellion a little more character

is, you know, kind of important to me in terms

of, like, fleshing out a strategy world.

Yeah, I mean, that's really one of the reasons I recommended this as a topic was my own

experiences in playing at EU4.

It is, I mean, rebels have always been in the EU games and in the paradox games.

But I think what EU4 is done, we'll talk a bit about the, I'll talk a little bit later about the history of and in the Paradox games. But I think what EU4 is done,

I'll talk a bit about the, I'll talk a little bit later about the history of rebels in the series, because it really has changed from game to game to game. But I'm finding it to EU4, I mean, to remind people, this is a game that I have done PR work for, but since I've been championing paradox games from like the beginning of my career, No one can say I'm really a dishonest chill about them.

But EU4 is one of the few games. since I've been championing paradox games from like the beginning of my career. No one can say I'm really a dishonest chill about them.

But EO4 is one of the few games where I've actually had to see rebels as a force to be reckoned with and not just a minor nuisance, where I've had to surrender and give up, you know,

give up the Ukraine because I'm too busy doing other crap to put down these tens of thousands of rebels.

And I think what EU4 has kind of set up is, what I brought to my mind, when I think about rebels' throw strategy games,

you think about rebels and dissent. Let's bring dissent and discontent into this, bring it quite widely.

There are two ways really of understanding rebels and discontent in strategy games.

One way, they are just a sign you are doing something wrong.

That something is missing.

You need to build something else to fix it.

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