Good evening. You are listening to Three Moves Ahead, and I'm your host, Rob Zackney. With me tonight is my regular co-panelist, Troy Goodfellow. I'm happy to be here again. And once again, we welcome back our special guest, Irrational Games, Ken Levine. Ken, thanks for joining us. I'm known for strategy games. You should be. I should be, but I'm not. No, I'm not. Shouldn't be. Well, it's either you do podcast like this one, or you find a way to work Panzers into every game that Arrational makes, right? That's how that works. That's, exactly. There will be a Panzer Conflag and 4 in Biocshack Infinite. Outstanding. Outstanding. I can't wait until the game just morphs into a hex-based turn-based war game,

just right in the middle. Like, look what Elizabeth brought through the portal, hex grids.

A grease pencil.

And you just have a commentary on the Spanish-American War, and people eat that shit up.

It's true. It's true.

No, our actual topic tonight is an important war game series, and I believe one of your favorites, Ken, the combat mission series.

I'm a big fan, and always have been.

So, why don't you get us started?

Explain what was the significance of combat mission beyond Overlord when it came out,

and how did it sort of affect the war game genre?

Well, I've been playing, you know, basically combat mission, as far as I understand,

it's like a one-man.

He started off as like a one-man operation,

and I actually played this guy Charlie Moyland,

and I played his game.

He made a game called Flight Commander, like, a thousand ago. And when I moved cross-country from the west coast to the East Coast,

I actually had a Mac, a first-generation Mac Powerbook, like a Mac Power, was it what the first

generation Mac PowerBook was called, like PowerBook 100 or something. And I played his game. It was like a turn-based Wego flight game,

like where you could fly like F10s versus

MiG-19s against each other.

And I plug that thing into the electric outlet of my car.

I wasn't driving at the time when my friend was driving.

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