Good evening. You are listening to Three Moves Ahead and I'm your host, Rob Zackney.

With me tonight is a returning guest, Gamer's with Jobs, Eric Hansen. Eric, thanks for being on the show tonight. I have coffee, but I'm not sharing. Oh, see, you are no Tom Chick, sir. No, no, I can't claim that. And it's fitting that Eric returns today because the last time he was on the show was when we were talking about the Civil War.

And today we pick up, in some ways, almost... admitting that Eric returns today because the last time he was on the show was when we were talking about the Civil War.

And today we pick up in some ways almost where we left off.

Tonight's topic is Paradox France's new strategy game, Pride of Nations, a game of 19th century imperialism.

Designer Philip Thibaut was good enough to join us for tonight's show.

Philip, thanks for coming on.

Thank you, and I'm pleased to be with you, just at dinner, so I'm not missing anything, coffee or anything else.

Excellent.

Phil, before we get into the game itself, I'm interested to hear how you came to make a game about colonial conquests in the 19th century.

What brought that to your mind when you were considering what your next game would be?

Yeah, well, it's a rather long process because I would say if I take everything into account the idea,

matured in my mind almost 10 years ago.

I used to be a fanatic boardgamer playing every weekend, and I was in love with the game

called Pax Britannica, which I played a lot. And with friends in France, about 10 years ago,

we designed a more elaborate board game on the subject.

But at the time, the market was a sub for ball game in France was just going to die,

and I shelved the idea.

About five years ago, when we decided what would be the next big project for our company,

H.O., we decided that the 19th century, because

there's so many things interesting in it, would be a very good subject. And the luck was that

had already a large set of documents and designs that we could use.

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