Welcome to the three martini lunch.

Grab a stole next to Greg Carumbus of Radio America and Jim Garrity of National Review.

Three martini's coming up.

So glad you're with us for the Thursday edition of the three martini lunch.

Jim Garrity, of course, is away.

Here in his place is Scott Bertram.

He's the general manager of WRFH, Radio Free Hillsdale,

on the campus of Hillsdale College, 101.7 FM on your dial if you're in the area.

He also lectures at Hillsdale in journalism and directs the Hillsdale College podcast network

and hosts many of the podcasts on that network, including an excellent one on education, but also the

Radio Free Hillsdale Hour. So, Scott, welcome back as always.

Greg, good to be here. How is the Thursday edition different from the Wednesday edition?

It's on Thursday.

Ah, okay. Now I got it. That makes sense.

Yes, big difference, big difference. But a lot to get to today. And, you know, Scott, one of the things we've seen over the past couple of years that's been interesting is, you know, about a decade ago, we had this kind of monolithic block of prominent billionaires who all leaned to the left. And now they're kind of, at least some of them, coming back to the other side. Elon Musk being most prominent and his endorsement and very enthusiastic support of Donald Trump and even being part of the administration there to run the Doge operation there for a while.

But we've also seen Jeff Bezos with a bit of a shift, and he is in our first martini today.

Bezos, of course, a founder of Amazon most prominently,

but he's got his space operation going on there because that's what billionaires do now

instead of running hot air balloons and trying to circumnavigate the globe. And then he also,

of course, a while ago bought the Washington Post. And at that time, Trump had just gotten

elected the first time and they come up with this democracy dies in, and they go full anti-Trump the whole way. And, well, it turns out that wasn't a great business model. They all felt good about themselves, but there wasn't turning a profit, so he's made major changes over there, which means everyone who used to work there hates him now. But he's, for the most part, still a pretty

strong capitalist, since that's how he made his many billions. And he was on an interview with

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