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This Naked Mind Podcast

Thought, Craving, or Old Habit? Making Sense of the Urge to Drink | Alcohol Freedom Coaching | EP 881

This Naked Mind Podcast

Annie Grace

Education, Self-improvement

4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2026

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Does the urge to drink ever go away, or is it something you’re stuck managing forever? In this Alcohol Freedom Coaching episode, Coach Hayley works with Mark, and Coach Soraya supports Michael as they share the real, messy middle of change. Mark talks about years of 30, 60, and 90-day breaks, the weight of the “alcoholic” label, and how an emotion-based goal—making alcohol immaterial in his life—finally eased the mental tug-of-war. Michael opens up about being 45 days alcohol-free, feeling “on display” in social situations, and tracing that discomfort back to a lifelong drive to fit in. These are the exact kinds of questions—about cravings, labels, and belonging—that get coached compassionately daily inside The Path. In Mark’s session: Exploring if the urge to drink ever goes away through real-life data points Moving from “I’m an alcoholic who can’t drink” to “alcohol is an addictive substance” Why time-based goals kept him chasing “normal drinking” Adopting an emotion-based goal: making alcohol immaterial in his life Using ACT and curiosity to meet cognitive dissonance instead of fighting it Noticing how cravings and thoughts faded dramatically by around 90 days Reclaiming mental real estate, time, and energy for what actually matters And more In Michael’s session: Feeling like he has to explain his choice and wondering does the urge to drink ever go away Using an ankle injury as a temporary “cover story” while he builds confidence Linking his discomfort to a deep drive to fit in and avoid conflict Connecting current social anxiety to teen anorexia and years of trying to blend in Learning that friends’ reactions often reveal their unease with alcohol Shifting from autopilot drinking to conscious “pilot” mode with curiosity and logic Letting the world adapt to his alcohol-free choice instead of shrinking himself And more Hayley Scherders is a certified TNM Coach with training from the Canadian Addiction and Mental Health Association. Drawing from personal experiences, Hayley understands how tough change can be and provides a safe, compassionate, and judgment-free space where her clients can feel supported. She believes that with the right mindset, anyone can change their life at any time. Learn more about Coach Hayley: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/hayley-scherders/ Soraya Odishoo is a compassionate Certified This Naked Mind Coach who blends somatic healing with therapeutic models to support recovery. She serves people who feel disconnected from their true selves and want freedom from substances or behaviors that no longer serve them. She takes a trauma-informed, heart-centered approach with a strong focus on accessibility for BIPOC and LGBTQIA+ communities.Learn more about Coach Soraya: https://thisnakedmind.com/coach/soraya-arjan-odishoo-alpc/ Episode links:nakedmindpath.com Related Episodes: Will I Ever Stop Craving Alcohol? – Reader Question – E676 – http://thisnakedmind.com/ep-676-readers-question-will-i-ever-stop-craving-alcohol/ How Do I Break the Cycle of Recurring Data Points? – Reader Question – E588 – http://thisnakedmind.com/ep-588-reader-question-how-do-i-break-the-cycle-of-recurring-data-points/ From Cravings to Curiosity – Alcohol Freedom Coaching – E851 – https://thisnakedmind.com/why-cant-i-get-rid-of-alcohol-cravings-e851/ Ready to take the next step on your journey? Visit https://learn.thisnakedmind.com/podcast-resources for free resources, programs, and more. Until next week, stay curious! Quince: Go to⁠ ⁠⁠Quince.com/naked⁠⁠⁠ for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns  Hungryroot: Get 40% off your first box + a free item for life at ⁠⁠⁠Hungryroot.com/mind⁠⁠⁠ with code mind BetterHelp: BetterHelp makes it easy to get matched online with a qualified therapist. Sign up and get 10% off at ⁠BetterHelp.com/nakedmind⁠ Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial and start selling today at⁠ ⁠⁠Shopify.com/mind⁠

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0:00.0

Welcome to This Naked Mind podcast, where we question the role of alcohol in our lives without rule, shame, or judgment.

0:12.4

I'm Annie Grace, and I'm so thrilled to have you with us today.

0:15.2

In this special series, I'm inviting you into something truly unique and deeply personal.

0:19.7

You're going to be listening in

0:20.8

on real one-on-one coaching sessions between some of our certified this naked mind coaches and members of our

0:26.2

community who are on their own journey with alcohol. These sessions are raw, unfiltered, and

0:31.3

completely unscripted. But before we dive in, I want to prepare you for what you're about to hear.

0:36.4

These conversations are real,

0:38.2

real people, real struggles, real emotions. They're honest and they're sometimes painful,

0:42.9

and they may even be uncomfortable to listen to. But that's the point. So no matter where you are

0:47.5

on your own personal journey, I encourage you to listen with an open heart and an open mind.

0:52.5

Now let's step into the world of this naked mind

0:54.4

coaching because this is where change begins. Hello, I'm Coach Haley, Alcohol Freedom Guide

1:02.3

at This Naked Mind and one of the coaches inside of the path. On today's episode, you'll get the

1:06.8

opportunity to listen in as I coach one of our path members or possibly as we

1:10.9

explore some different topics that come up. How are you doing, Mark? I want to welcome you to

1:15.3

this episode and you can introduce yourself and let us know what we're going to be diving into.

1:21.5

Okay, Haley. I'm Mark Veltman and I'm in the July path,uly 2025 path and i guess one of the topics that

1:32.0

that i wanted to dive into today was the cognitive dissonance and just i guess a little bit about me

1:41.0

i've been a drinker for many years and heavy drinker. And I've tried 30-day

1:48.1

programs, 60-day programs, 90-day programs, some just webcast base, some formal. And I think

1:57.0

always had a goal at the end of that that I'm going to do 30 days, 60 days, 90 days,

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