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The Atlas Obscura Podcast

Thomas Paine’s Bones

The Atlas Obscura Podcast

SiriusXM Podcasts & Atlas Obscura

Places & Travel, Society & Culture

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

“Founding Fathers” like Washington or Jefferson have gigantic monuments in Washington, statues galore and palatial house-museums. But what about…Thomas Paine? The author of “Common Sense,” the pamphlet that brought the idea of American independence to the masses, was considered a hero after the American Revolution. But then he experienced a remarkable fall from grace, which ended in his burial in a pauper’s grave and…well, some graverobbers disinterring his body and spreading his bones all over the world. Feelin’ the Paine? Check out the biography “Thomas Paine: Enlightenment, Revolution, and the Birth of Modern Nations” by Craig Nelson, this Library of Congress article on Paine’s bones, and a discussion of Paine’s philosophy on this episode of the BBC’s In Our Time. Or see his New Rochelle farmhouse (and…former grave) for yourself: https://www.thomaspainecottage.org/

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0:00.0

Maybe we can start with a little bit of a word association.

0:03.6

So I'm going to say a name and just tell me what you think about.

0:06.3

So the name is Thomas Payne.

0:09.5

Yeah, Thomas Payne.

0:11.1

I mean, first thing, of course, founding father, part of the whole revolutionary guard, whatever.

0:18.7

You know, like part of that crew.

0:22.2

I think of Thomas Payne as being like a, like a classic kind of enlightenment figure against the monarchy for

0:30.7

sort of individual rights. And like I also, I have the sense of him as kind of like a little bit of an edge lord.

0:39.4

Like some of the founding fathers were more of edge lords than others.

0:42.8

And I feel like Thomas Paine.

0:43.7

Yeah, he's definitely one of them.

0:45.0

I think of Thomas Paine as like perfect example of like enlightenment founding father,

0:50.9

edge lord.

0:52.2

And when we think of like that crew, you know, Washington has his

0:57.5

monument in D.C. Jefferson has one as well. They also have like prominent homes that are

1:02.2

affiliated with them. Giant estates that you can go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But do you have any sense of where

1:07.6

Thomas Payne is located? Any memorials, any burial sites, anything like that for Thomas

1:12.9

Payne? I honestly can't think of anything. I actually, I really can't, like, there must be,

1:19.5

there must be statues somewhere. Now they're thinking about it. You're like, wait a minute.

1:22.8

Where is the Thomas Payne stuff? Where is he bear? Is there a monument somewhere?

1:28.2

So I'm going to show you a photo.

1:31.2

And this is actually an object that was sold at an antiques fair in Australia in the 1980s.

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