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The Atlas Obscura Podcast

The Miraculous Staircase

The Atlas Obscura Podcast

SiriusXM Podcasts & Atlas Obscura

Places & Travel, Society & Culture

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

The Loretto Chapel in Santa Fe, New Mexico has a pretty unusual spiral staircase – it winds round and round like a DNA helix, and has no visible center “bar” for support. But the story of the staircase’s origins is even stranger. It was built by an itinerant carpenter who wandered in from the desert – and 200 years later, we’re still not sure who it was. This episode was brought to you in partnership with Visit Santa Fe.

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0:00.0

If you're a nun and you're facing a problem you don't know how to solve, you might pray on it.

0:07.2

If you're a nun and facing a really big problem that you really don't know how to solve and you've exhausted all the other options, maybe you really, really pray on it.

0:20.8

I don't mean just regular prayers here. I mean... you really, really pray on it.

0:23.0

I don't mean just regular prayers here.

0:26.5

I mean, you go nuclear.

0:29.3

Something called the novena,

0:33.7

nine full days of prayer and meditation.

0:43.4

This is exactly what was going on with the Sisters of Loretto, a community of nuns in Santa Fe, New Mexico, all the way back in 1873.

0:47.5

They had a real problem on their hands.

0:50.3

So they settled into their pews and got ready to focus all of their attention for the next nine days,

0:57.1

hoping that on the other side there would be some kind of answer.

1:06.9

This was their conundrum.

1:10.7

The sisters had been trying to build a chapel. They had an architect who had been... This was their conundrum.

1:12.7

The sisters had been trying to build a chapel.

1:16.4

They had an architect who had been brought over from France,

1:19.4

and he had all these beautiful grand plans.

1:25.4

The architect named Projectus Muli really went all out.

1:26.6

Just side note.

1:29.5

I feel like the name Projectus should come back.

1:30.8

What a name.

1:35.8

Anyway, Projectus Moly had these giant stones cut from a nearby quarry.

1:38.9

He had stained glass brought over from France,

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