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We live in a moment now where the backlash to DEI is such that it's bone-shilling,

Yasha, you know, they are shaking down the greatest institutions of higher learning than I've ever been to create it.

They are shaking them down like protection rackets in Brooklyn in the 40s or something.

It's astonishing.

But it is a reaction to something else that happened that was unbelievable.

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

There's something strange about the summer of 2020.

A global pandemic had the world in its grips.

After the murder of George Floyd,

we had the biggest demonstrations for racial justice in human history.

We were in a moment of deep cultural foment,

perhaps at times in a form of moral panic as well. And yet these

seemingly momentous events have nearly disappeared from notice. Since then, we have done very little to reflect upon them. Well, I've been on a

mission to change that a little bit. We had a couple of really interesting conversations about

COVID on this podcast today. I want to talk about the nature of that cultural moment and the long-term political consequences it has had.

And of course, there's nobody better to talk about this than one of my absolute favorite

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