If you were in progressive communities, you know, from, I don't know, 2015 on, it was clear this set of rules and norms involving identity had emerged.

And a lot of it really was whoever is more oppressed wins.

And it, you know, it sounds ridiculous in retrospect, but that really was how it worked.

And it was always such a dead end because it's so complicated.

And now the Good Fight with Yasha Monk.

My guest today is Jesse Single.

Jesse is the host of Bar Pot, a podcast with Katie Herzog about

online political culture. He is a writer who's written for The Economist and the Atlantic of New York

Times Magazine about many issues touching on social science and some of the debates around trans

questions.

We talked about a bunch of different issues.

We talked about how people who are very worried about Donald Trump and opposed to right-wing

populism more broadly, but who also have the criticisms of the identitarian obsessions of

parts of the left can maneuver this political moment. Who has reacted to

it in a principled way, criticizing the Trump administration when it attacked free speech or due

process, and who has not lived up to that test, who has made excuses in ways that are disappointing.

We discussed whether the term of the woke right is helpful for understanding some of the

dynamics on the online right and in Maga land.

Is it helpful to try and compare that to the quote-unquote woke left, or are the disanalogies ultimately

bigger than the analogies?

I asked Jesse for an update on his excellent work on the replication crisis and some of the

deep problems in social science.

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