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This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.

All right, guys. We got a special guest on the podcast today. His name is Tom Rainer.

He's actually been on the show before, so you guys can check out his old interview as well.

But he is an author, church consultant and former pastor. He's also the founder and CEO of Church of Answers.

So Church Answers is an online community and research for church leaders.

And before that, he actually was the CEO of Lifeway.

And before coming to Lifeway, he served at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary for 12 years

where he was the founding dean of the Billy Graham School of Missions and Evangelism.

So he has written three bestselling books, but he's written over 40 books at this point.

And today we're just talking about, I think he said it was book 39 of 41. He's got two that haven't been released yet.

But it's this book right here when the people pray an invitation to intercede for your pastor and revive your church.

And so he's also the host of the Rainer on Leadership Podcast. But to go back to the book when people pray,

this is basically a 30 day devotional to help you pray for your pastor, which frankly is not really something

that I've ever really thought about too much. It's like shouldn't they be praying for me?

Should they be doing it for me? And so I kind of got rebuked for that selfishness as I was reading it.

But we're going to talk about preparation. Like what does the pastor go through to prepare their sermon every week?

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