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The Owen Jones Podcast

This War Is SPINNING Out Of Control – Esfandyar Batmanghelidj

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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0:00.0

So Donald Trump's sounding very bullish about the war in Iran, which has now gone on for weeks.

0:05.9

Obviously, he expected it to last days after killing the Supreme Leader.

0:10.4

I wouldn't give you a recap of what's happened. You get the gist.

0:13.5

This is what he's just said. And I'm going to ask a brilliant guest. I'm about to introduce it.

0:18.1

But I'm going to just let everyone know first where we're at with the true social posting of the President of the United States. So he says,

0:25.3

the Iranian negotiators are very different and strange. They are begging us to make a deal,

0:30.3

which they should be doing, since they have been militarily obliterated with zero chance of a

0:34.0

comeback. And yet they publicly state that they are only looking at our proposal wronged in capitals three exclamation marks they better get serious soon before it is too late

0:42.6

because once that happens there is no turning back also in capitals and it won't be pretty

0:48.7

there we go well um i'm very delighted to be joined uh by brilliant author, who is the founder and CEO of the

0:56.7

Bors and Bazaar Foundation, if I've got that correct, and has many of the hats.

1:01.5

F Samjar, that's when Geditch.

1:03.8

Have I said I got that more or less correct?

1:06.0

Yeah, that was fine, Owen.

1:08.4

That's good to know.

1:09.7

Great to speak to you.

1:27.8

I've been reading your analysis during the war, and it's really incisive, fascinating stuff. People are going to learn a lot. So great to speak to you. Great to be here. Thanks for having. Okay. That tree social post. That's where Donald Trump's presenting himself to be at. What's your response to that? I think the key phrase there is this idea of there's no turning back. And, you know, we're

1:33.0

sort of at a fork in the road after, I'd say, the events of last week when Israel struck

1:40.3

a major energy facility in southern Iran, the oil, sorry, the gas processing plants at South

1:46.4

Par.

1:47.3

And Iran responded by targeting the world's largest LNG facility in, which is in Qatar,

1:54.3

Ras Lafant.

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