Iran has said no to the demands which have been imposed by the Trump administration,

which had claims that Iran had called for negotiations and was trying to pressure to get

negotiations. It doesn't seem to be the reality. But equally, is a ground wall looming.

And what's going on with the American right? What's going on with the whole kind of MAGA movement and all the rest? Well, I'm really

delighted to be joined by Sorab Amari, who is the US editor of Unheard. He's an Iranian-American

analyst and also an author, for example, of Tyranny Inc.

Very accomplished and fascinating thinker.

So I've been following your writing for a while and learned a lot, so it's great to have you.

Likewise, pleased to be with you.

Just want to start, actually, with... So, look, Donald Trump says, you know, we're going to have all these demands.

They list 25 points, I think, for their supposed demands to Iran.

And Iran has come back and said, no, that the war will not end on the, when Trump says so.

They say the war will end when they say so, and that

they say the US and Israel are losing this war. What do you make of, I guess, the demands,

what Trump's positioning has been and how Iran has responded. What do you think?

Well, the sort of barrage of demands are in line with the broader aimlessness and

confusion of this war. You'll remember when the president first launched it in that one, two-in-a-mourning

message, it really leaned toward regime change, right? We were going to put Iran

in the hands of its own people, its destinies in the hands of its people, that sort of stuff.

And you heard a lot of regime change type rhetoric. Then it changed to denuclearization,

you know, depending on which cabinet member you ask, you get a different answer, but denuclearization,

this even though the previous 12-day war of last summer was supposed to have, quote,

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