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The Daily Beast Podcast

This Proves Trump Knows He's In Big Trouble: Wolff

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

4.67.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to trace the oddly revealing logic now driving Donald Trump’s presidency: a man who knows the midterms are coming, knows the numbers are bad, knows Epstein, jobs, ICE videos, and his own health chatter are bleeding into the public consciousness—and who believes the only solution is something that “plays.” From Pam Bondi’s visible strain as Trump treats the Justice Department like his personal law firm, to his lifelong conviction that nothing is ever his fault, Wolff explains why loyalty always curdles into blame. The conversation moves outward to the foreign-policy theatrics he sees as risk-free wins: Venezuela as a headline-grabbing show of force, Greenland as a performative threat designed to make Europe bend, and war as branding.

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0:00.0

So I went back to the people I speak to the White House to revisit this.

0:06.2

And they kind of traced the development of this idea.

0:09.6

So the midterm elections are November 3rd, 26.

0:13.5

And he was starting to say, if we lose, we could be finished, finished, finished.

0:19.3

He would go on to cite the problems that they were having,

0:22.8

which are jobs, their jobs aren't growing.

0:26.3

And in fact, I mean, there was just a piece that came,

0:30.6

a report that came out that jobs are now, you know, growing.

0:34.4

This is the slowest job growth period in basically 20 years.

0:43.5

Michael. Joanna. Okay, today we are going to start with a shout out to a correspondent that we have

0:53.0

called Garfried. Garfried, if you are watching or listening, I want to thank you because what other people may not realize is that with every episode, Garfried writes us a limerick. I'm going to read you one of the limericks. We don't know Garfrey's first name. We don't know if Garfried is a man or a woman.

1:11.4

We have no idea.

1:12.4

We'd like to know.

1:13.6

And I am...

1:14.4

Although we don't have to know.

1:15.9

No, we don't have to know.

1:16.8

In fact, it might be better just not to know.

1:18.8

And Garfrey might not have a chosen gender.

1:21.7

Garfrey may just be in the free...

1:23.6

But of course.

1:25.1

There once was a realm in a spin, where lies were no longer a sin.

1:31.8

Wolf with Coles explain how shameless refrain makes nonsense the way you can win.

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